Dry Fire Laser Training Systems Review

This Dry Fire Laser Training Systems Review is the longest article I’ve written so far.  But, it’s worth reading!  I cover most of the major products on the market… all purchased by me with my money.  Of course, there will be products on the market that I don’t cover.  I’ll be reviewing products from Laserlyte (various products), Next Level Training (SIRT laser pistol), LASR (dry fire app), and Coolfire (recoil trainer).

Shooting Practice in the Comfort of Your Own Home

Some of us can’t get to the range as often as we’d like… for a number of reasons:

⦿  Time – You’re just busy with life…  You’ve got to pack up your gear.  Drive there.  Drive back.  Clean and put away gear.

⦿  Distance / Convenience – Availability of ranges may be limited.

⦿  Cost – Ammo has been scarce and expensive in recent years.  An hour at the range, practicing with 9-mm could cost $40 – $60+ in just ammo costs.

While live fire is certainly the “best” practice you can get, Dry Fire has a lot of value, as well.  Even professional shooters, who have virtually unlimited range time and ammo, use Dry Fire practice as a part of their regular and structured training regimen.

What is “Dry Fire?”

LaserLyte LT-Pro / LT-Pre dry fire laser system review.

FNP-45T with LaserLyte LT-Pro dry fire laser in muzzle.

It’s basically using a firearm without ammo.  The trigger is pulled, and the hammer or striker drops on an empty chamber (better with “snap caps” or a “dummy” cartridge to prevent excessive wear).  It may involve using an actual unloaded firearm.  Or, you can use a simulated firearm specially designed for Dry Fire practice (See section on SIRT pistol below).

Dry Fire practice lacks the recoil factor of live fire.  But, it allows the shooter to focus on grip, trigger control, sight alignment, sight picture, and other skills.  And, you won’t “run out of ammo.”  You can repeat sight pictures and trigger pulls many, many times, burning it into “muscle memory.”  Dry Fire also has the advantage of not requiring a range.  You can do it anywhere, including inside your home.  I would not recommend doing it in public areas, for hopefully obvious reasons….  We don’t want to frighten the muggles, eh?

Over time, Dry Fire practice will hone and maintain your skills while also saving you money.  Win-win!

What follows here is my Dry Fire “evolution” and a comparison of laser training systems.

Crap.  Rack.  Pew! (a variation of “tap, rack, bang”)

If your gun is a striker-fired semi-automatic (like a Glock), you have to rack the slide (to reset the trigger) before pulling the trigger for each Dry Fire shot.  It gets very tedious (adding to the boredom factor), and racking the slide between every shot is not a good simulation of the actual use of the firearm.  Worse yet, it might introduce “training scars” (engrained habits that would be inappropriate in a real defensive situation and could get you killed).  If you have to manually reset your trigger for each shot in Dry Fire practice, you can’t “fire” multiple shots (or multiple targets) sequentially.  It’s simply very limiting.

There are Dry Fire trigger kits for Glocks (that resets the trigger each time), but I don’t think most Glock owners want to disassemble and reassemble their guns for each Dry Fire session.  And, the trigger kit is expensive ($199) for what it is.  For a little more than that, you can get yourself a dedicated SIRT laser training pistol (more on that below).  I don’t think the trigger resetting kits are practical nor worth the price.

Some striker-fired guns have a “repeat strike” or “second strike” feature that eliminates this issue.  No recocking / racking the slide needed to Dry Fire again.  Sig Sauer is one company that offers this on some models.  HK is another.  (According to my very cursory research)

Hammer-fired guns don’t have this issue (in double-action).  However, if you want to use the single-action mode of your pistol, you’ll have to cock it before each shot.  And, that will also get old / annoying quickly.  Ask me how I know!

Safety First!  Always!

I should also mention that if you are using an actual firearm for Dry Fire practice, you should double, triple, and quadruple check that there is no live ammo / loaded magazines in the room and that the chamber is empty.  In other words, “sterilize” or “cleanse” the room of any live ammo.  Cooper’s Four Rules are also still in effect.

ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

One issue with unenhanced Dry Fire is that it can get BORING.  It’s just you and your gun, aiming at a spot on the wall, pulling the trigger over and over.  Snooze-fest!  Without the “bang!”, recoil, destruction of a target, or smell of cordite….  It just lacks any sort of  sensory “reward.”  As such, it is difficult to stay motivated with Dry Fire practice.

Lasssers!

dr evil lasersWho doesn’t like lasers?  Lasers are cool and have many uses.  In the context of Dry Fire, lasers are a great way to see where your “shots” are landing.  A laser blip on the Dry Fire target replaces the holes you’d see in live fire as feedback on your effectiveness.  Now you can, at least, SEE something, if only momentarily.  You’re visually rewarded for your efforts, and you can measure your effectiveness to a degree.  The downside is that it takes your eyes off the sights, and you have no lasting “record” of your shots to examine later.  Or is there?  Stay tuned and read on!

LaserLyte Pistol Trainer laser cartridges. They are caliber-specific. Photo courtesy of LaserLyte.

LaserLyte Pistol Trainer laser cartridges. They are caliber-specific. Photo courtesy of LaserLyte.

There are many nifty products on the market for this purpose.  There are “laser cartridges” that look a bit like a real cartridge that has a laser built into it.  They are caliber-specific and fit perfectly in the chamber of your gun.  Word on the street is that the end cap, where the gun’s firing pin activates the switch to fire the laser, will wear out at some point.  According to the company, they are expected to last for 3,000 shots or 3 years.  The end caps are a replaceable part for $10.

LaserLyte LT-PRO and LaserLyte LT-PRE dry fire laser review.

LaserLyte LT-Pro laser with batteries removed. Be very careful to not lose the spring in the end cap. It comes loose easily.  “BOING!”  Where did it go?  LaserLyte’s customer service is excellent, and they’ll send you a new spring.  Ask me how I know!

There are also lasers that are fitted into the muzzle of your gun.  They often have “universal” adapters that allow them to be used in firearms of different calibers.  So, if you have more than one pistol (in different calibers), this is a great choice.  The first Dry Fire laser I bought was LaserLyte’s universal LT-Pro laser.  It fits in the muzzle of pistol calibers from .380 to .45-ACP.  It’s a neat system, but it has one drawback.  The LT-Pro laser doesn’t have an on/off switch.  If you leave the batteries in while it’s not being used, they will wear out prematurely.  So, that means you really need to install and remove the batteries each time after you’re done using it.

Edit to add:  LaserLyte just added a new product, LT-Pre, aka “Pistol Trainer Premium,” that has an on / off switch to eliminate the battery drain issue.  It will also fit in 2-inch snubnose revolvers, whereas the LT-Pro would not.  I have a couple of snub nose revolvers, so of course, I couldn’t resist buying the LT-Pre.  Now I have both.  🙂  I really like having the on / off switch on the LT-Pre.  Another advantage of the new LT-Pre over the old LT-Pro (being phased out) is that the bore size adjustment is easier and can be done without a tool.

The LT-Pro and LT-Pre are activated by the sound of the striker / hammer, so no laser-activating switch to wear out like in the cartridge lasers.

If you want to get more out of dry firing your actual defensive gun, LaserLyte’s LT-cartridge or LT-Pre (fits all calibers from .38 to .45) are excellent choices.  If you have multiple handguns in different calibers, then the LT-Pre is the way to go.  If you only have one gun (or multiple guns in the same caliber), you might consider LaserLyte’s Trainer Pistol Cartridge laser.  More about how I use my LaserLyte LT-Pre in dry fire drills later in this review.

••• – – – •••  Not Morse Code

LaserLyte "Trigger Tyme" training pistol.

LaserLyte “Trigger Tyme” training pistol.

Both LaserLyte cartridge and muzzle lasers fire a visible “blip” when the trigger is pulled.  It’s 100 milliseconds long, which is long enough to see it.  Wherever you were aiming when “firing,” you’ll see a red laser blip.  This gives you some feed back on both your sight picture and trigger control.  Sight picture effectiveness is obvious – did you hit where you were aiming?  Trigger control issues can also be analyzed, as well.

Was the laser blip a “dot” or a “dash?”  Dots = good.  Dash = possible problem.  If it’s a dash, you’re moving the muzzle during the shot.  There are several causes for that, like jerking or slapping the trigger.  It can be trigger finger placement.  It can be a grip issue.  But, diagnosing those problems is not in the scope of this article.  You can research that on the interwebz or, better yet, get trained and coached by an NRA instructor or firearms professional.  The point is that a Dry Fire laser can be an excellent training tool.  And, it makes Dry Fire more interesting, effective, and FUN.

More Toys

"Trigger Tyme" pistol with LT-Pro in muzzle.

“Trigger Tyme” pistol with LT-Pro in muzzle.

I also got the LaserLyte  “Trigger Tyme” Trainer Pistol, which is a plastic simulated pistol with a resetting trigger that uses the LT-Pro pistol laser in the “muzzle.”  The idea is that if your real pistol doesn’t have a resetting trigger (like the Glock), you could use this instead.  No cocking necessary between shots.  It’s relatively cheap (~$50), and well… you get what you pay for, eh?  It doesn’t effectively mimic a real gun in any way.

Though it’s weighted, it feels somewhat lightweight in my hand.  The Trigger Tyme training pistol grip is on the small side, too.  The trigger is fairly stiff and makes a loud “clack” sound when pulled (which then activates the laser).  It’s loud enough that it would probably annoy anyone trying to sleep in the house.  The sights on it are pathetic.  I painted mine for better visibility.   Another problem with the Trigger Tyme pistol is when the trigger resets, it makes a noise loud enough to fire the laser a second time.  So, with some of the trigger pulls, you get TWO “shots,” one on the trigger pull, and another on the release of the trigger.  It doesn’t happen every time, but enough to be annoying.

(Edit to add:  I took the Trigger Tyme pistol apart – 8 screws.  I did my first “trigger job” ever!  I rounded / radiused the corners of trigger “sear” with a file.  This eliminated that second loud clack on trigger reset that set the laser off.) 

It’s better than nothing, but I don’t think it replicates a real firearm enough to make the skills truly transferable.  It’s more of a toy than a firearms trainer.  It looks and feels like a toy, in my opinion.  (Editing to add – another blogger suggested it serves well for training children, because of its smaller size.  I agree that it may serve that purpose well.  My daughter likes it.)

LaserLyte is constantly developing new and interesting products.   My review here is limited to the few products I own from their line.  I recommend you check out the LaserLyte website, as they may have the right laser training product for your needs.

Flirt with the SIRT.

SIRT dry fire laser pistol

SIRT pistol and removable magazine.  SIRT = Shot Indicating Resetting Trigger.

There is another option – a dedicated dry-fire laser pistol, like the SIRT Pistol.  It’s not cheap… $240 – $400, depending on which model you get.  I’d consider it the “gold standard” in laser trainers.  But, it’s WAY COOL and WAY GOOD.  This is a serious tool.  The SIRT pistol physically duplicates the classic Glock 17 (and Glock 22).  It’s the same size, weight, and feel of the Glock 17 / 22.  It will even fit in a Glock-specific holster.  You can order it with either a red or purple “slide.”  The color makes it stand out as a training / replica gun.

Fits perfectly in a Glock holster!

Fits perfectly in a Glock holster!

The SIRT is equipped with TWO lasers. One laser lights up during “trigger uptake,” before it “breaks.”  The other is the shot-indicating laser that fires when the trigger “breaks” / is pulled all the way to make the shot.  The model I got uses a red laser for the trigger uptake and a green laser for the shot indicator.  One advantage of the green laser is that it’s brighter and more visible in brightly-lit environments or outdoors.

The other (less expensive) version uses two red lasers.  The purpose of the trigger uptake laser is to indicate and diagnose movement issues before / during the shot.  The trigger uptake laser can be shut off with a convenient external toggle switch on the top of the slide.

Standard Glock sights installed on my SIRT pistol.

Standard Glock sights installed (to replace the stock sights) on my SIRT pistol.

It’s important to note that the uptake laser is NOT an aiming laser.  The idea is that the uptake laser is set at the factory to be below the shooter’s line of sight, so an instructor can observe it to diagnose trigger-control issues with a student.  In my personal SIRT pistol, I’ve got the windage of the uptake laser set quite a bit off to the side, so I can see it peripherally while I’m using the “iron” sights to aim.  Though, the vast majority of the time, I have the uptake laser turned off.

Furthermore, the red and green laser functions can be reversed (uptake vs shot indicating) with some minor disassembly.  Both lasers are adjustable for windage and elevation.

The SIRT also has a removable magazine (with a mag release button just like the G17) that is weighted like a real loaded magazine.  (The weight is adjustable, too.)  Extra magazines can be purchased.  So, you can practice magazine changes.

The SIRT pistol is a big jump up from the other laser systems.  If you’re serious about Dry Fire practice, and you like the Glock or Smith & Wesson M&P platform, then the SIRT is worth the money.  Being able to repeatedly “fire” without having to cock the pistol makes repetitive firing and drills more realistic.

One nit to pick with the SIRT pistol is the sights.  The sights are a plain black plastic front post and black rear notched-blade.  Black on black.  No white dots or other markings…. just plain black.  That doesn’t work for me (or my eyes).  The good news is that the SIRT’s sights are replaceable.  And, the OEM (original) Glock sights fit perfectly (see photo above).  You can buy a replacement set of Glock sights online for about $20.  Or you can add whichever sights you like, ideally duplicating the sights that you use on your defensive pistol.

The SIRT pistol is also available with two different “slide” options.  The “slide,” which doesn’t slide, comes in a plastic or metal version.  My green laser SIRT has the metal slide.  My more recent infrared laser SIRT has the plastic slide.  There is definitely a perceptible difference in weight between the metal vs plastic slide models.  The metal slide model feels a bit more like a real pistol in terms of weight in your hand.  However… does it really matter in practical terms?  Is it worth the significant difference in price?  Probably not.  I suppose it’s a matter of how important it is to you for your SIRT to replicate every last detail of a real pistol.

The folks at Next Level Training, who make the SIRT pistol, have promised that there is a version modeled on the Smith & Wesson M&P pistol in the works.  Not everyone has a Glock or likes the ergonomics of Glocks.  So, hopefully, they’ll have the M&P version of the SIRT pistol out soon.  Update:  They now have an M&P version!  (back to top)

Target acquired!

LaserLyte Laser Target dry fire system review.

LaserLyte Laser Target with hits displayed.

There are also laser-activated targets on the market now.  This type of target detects where each shot hits.  Then you shoot the “display” sensor, and all your target hits light up with LEDs.    They stay lit until you reset the target (by shooting the “Reset” sensor).  Pretty cool.  A couple of years ago, I bought LaserLyte’s Laser Trainer Target.  The Trainer Target is a little box unit that uses three AA batteries.  It has to be placed on a flat surface (high enough to accommodate normal shooting posture).

After shooting at the target, you fire the laser at the "Display" sensor to display your hits. Then you can shoot the "Reset" sensor to clear them and start over.

After shooting at the target, you fire the laser at the “Display” sensor to display your hits. Then you can shoot the “Reset” sensor to clear them and start over.

It can’t be hung on a wall (at least not my older model).  That limits where it can be placed, and it’s just the one target.  So, it’s pretty slick and way better than targets with no feedback.  It’s basically bulls-eye shooting at a fairly small target.  So, you can practice as the shorter distances usually available in your home with a scaled-down target that simulates a larger target at a longer distance.  I hope that made sense!  That said, it will work well for practicing sight picture and trigger control.  The Laser Trainer Target works only with red lasers, by the way.  Edit to add:  They don’t advertise the fact, but it also works with INFRARED lasers.  I tried it.  Cool!  😎   Too bad it won’t work with green lasers.  😥

A nit to pick with the Laser Trainer Target is that to access the batteries, you have to remove SIX screws from the back cover of the unit.  A quick access to the batteries (no screws) would be nice.  If you leave the batteries in for an extended period of time, you get that nasty green corrosion that could damage the unit.  Ask me how I know!

Another “hint” that makes the Laserlyte Laser Trainer Target easier to work with…  The “Display” and “Reset” sensors can be difficult to hit at a distance with your pistol laser.  If you happen to have a traditional cheap “laser pointer,” you can use it to hit the display and reset sensors more easily.

There are other types of “reactive” laser targets by LaserLyte, including “plinking” cans that fall over when hit by a laser blip.  They also have some targets that randomly light up (as a signal to shoot them) to test your reaction time.  They come in a package of two or three targets.  Pretty neat!  I don’t have these, yet.  Check out their website to peruse their wide variety of laser training gizmos.  Good stuff. (back to muzzle laser section)

Taking Dry Fire targets to the next level with L.A.S.R.!

With all those gizmos, I was STILL getting bored with Dry Fire practice.

Recently, I discovered a software app that makes Dry Fire practice a whole new experience… one that very closely simulates time spent at a real range.  It’s called, “L.A.S.R.” which means Laser Activated Shot Reporter.
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Dry Fire laser systems review.

In the den. My improvised targets are on the wall next to the Fijian war mask. The center target is a Styrofoam picnic plate. I used a Sharpie marker to draw a triangle (upper right) and a square (lower left). On the upper left is a cardboard silhouette. On the lower right is a cardboard square. The webcam is mounted on a tripod.

All you need is a laptop, an external (USB) webcam, and the app (plus whichever laser system you like).  This app works with ANY Dry Fire laser system.  It can be used with the SIRT (any color laser) or with a real pistol with an attached muzzle laser like the LaserLyte LT-Pre or a Laserlyte cartridge laser.

You can use any kind of target you like.  You can use traditional commercially-available paper targets.  You can draw or print your own.  You can use small scaled-down targets or life-sized silhouettes, if you want.  You can even designate any object within view of the webcam as a target… light switches, framed art, plugs, etc.

What does it do?  Basically, you open the app on your laptop and connect an external web cam.  Aim the webcam at your target or targets (up to twenty!).  In the app, you’ll designate each target by drawing a border around it.  The app has target shape presets, making designating the borders of various targets as easy as click-and-drag.  The shapes can be resized and rotated.  You can assign different score values to each target.  You can also designate “miss” zones that are tracked by the app.

LASR - Laser Activated Shot Reporter review

This is the target edit mode where you designate each target. The large rectangle around the other targets is the “miss zone.” The checkerboard rectangle on the right is a “special purpose” target.   It’s not an actual target… It’s just an area of the wall that I’ve designated in the app.  When I shoot that area, it resets / clears the targets and restarts the timer (so I don’t have to use the computer mouse).

When you shoot, the camera and app capture the laser blips and record them (super-imposed) on the video image of the targets.  It will keep score and time your shots, as well.  There are several different timed drills you can run, including one where the app calls out multiple targets randomly (by name) for you to react and shoot.  There is a “Race Mode” that can track two to nine shooters simultaneously (in competition).

I shot each of the five targets once. The target hits are red, with the last target orange / yellow. I also intentionally fired one "miss" (black dot).

I shot each of the five targets once.  On the left side, is the webcam’s view, which can be zoomed and panned.  (Close-up in next image, below.)  On the right side of the screen is the list of shots with columns that indicate which target was hit, the time, and score.

Close-up of target results.

Close-up of target results.  The target hits are red, with the last shot in orange / yellow. I also intentionally fired one “miss” (black dot).

Every function of the app is very customizable.  You can change the color and size of the shot indicators.  I made the shot indicators larger for some of the photos in this article.  You can even customize the sound of the gunfire and the sound of the target being hit (like a steel target).

Webcam mounted to tripod. I got the IR camera from the folks at L.A.S.R. It works with any laser, but I want to eventually get the IR (infrared) SIRT pistol. So, this camera will work with that, too.

Webcam mounted to tripod.  The L.A.S.R. app works with any webcam, but you’ll want to use an external webcam.  I got the IR camera from the folks at L.A.S.R. It works with any laser, but I want to eventually get the IR (infrared) SIRT pistol. So, this camera will work with that, too.

Of course, the L.A.S.R. app doesn’t perfectly duplicate live firing at the range.  But, I think it’s as close as we can get to SIMULATING it.  The only thing missing is recoil.  But, the simulated sound (coming from your laptop speakers) is there.  The visual evidence of where the shots landed is there.  There is an integrated shot timer and scoring system for post-shooting analysis.  And, you can save your targets (both images and your times / scores) to your hard drive.

The software isn’t terribly expensive ($120 – Save 10% by using the coupon code “DentalWarrior”).  That’s about the cost of two trips to the range for me, if I include ammo costs.  And, you get updates for “life.”  Then it becomes a matter of which laser training device you decide to use.  But, if you use it regularly, you’ll save money (over the cost of real range time and ammo)… and improve your skills!  To be clear, though… this is not a substitute for live fire practice.  It can be a significant enhancement to your live fire practice and skills.

The best thing about the L.A.S.R. Dry Fire app is that you have specific targets to shoot at, AND it gives you feedback that you can analyze.  You can MEASURE (and record) your performance… work on specific issues… and IMPROVE your performance.  Very, very cool!  Here’s an example of how detailed analysis of your performance can be.  I ran a series of timed draws / first shot drills.

LASR-first-shot-analysis

Draw SIRT pistol from OWB (outside the waist band) holster, no cover garment – time to first shot.

You can’t do that here!  (But, you can do it at home with L.A.S.R.)

loaded range-0004At most public ranges, for safety reasons, shooters are very limited in what they can do.  They don’t allow drawing from a holster.  They don’t allow shooter movement.  They don’t allow multiple targets.  They don’t allow rapid fire.  You have to stand in place with your gun always pointed downrange and fire at a rate no faster than one shot per second.

In other words, they don’t let you practice any techniques that you’d likely use in a real-world defensive situation.  However, I understand why they institute those strict rules (for safety) at public ranges.

Several months ago, I took a defensive pistol course that involved drawing from a holster and “instinctive” or “point” shooting.  I learned some great skills.  But, I can’t practice those skills at a traditional public range.

For real world defensive shooting practice, static “square ranges” don’t cut it.  In my case, I could go to an outdoor range that offers private bays for rent to practice dynamic / defensive shooting.  But, it’s over an hour’s drive away.  And, unless I get a group of shooters together, the private bay rental can be expensive.

With a Dry Fire laser-equipped pistol and the L.A.S.R. system, you can practice all of that… at home!  For example, you can set the app to give a random signal, and time the draw to your first shot.  It will also time intervals between shots for multiple shots.  Then you can see where all those shots landed and even highlight each one as you scroll through the time record.  You can draw from a holster.  You can move.  You can fire from cover or concealment.  You can fire from compromised positions… on your back… on your ass… with your “weak” hand…. and so on.  You can use multiple targets.  Your house, your rules!

Dry Fire Laser Training Systems Review.

A regular “splatterburst” target (similar to “Shoot-n-See”) taped to the wall. For this session, I used my SIRT pistol and brought out the Chiappa Rhino revolver, equipped with a LaserLyte LT-Pre (in the muzzle).

Below is a saved image of a draw from concealment drill.  I started with my SIRT pistol in an IWB (inside the waistband) holster with an untucked t-shirt covering it.  When the timer’s start buzzer went off, I drew and fired… and kept firing (which I can do with the SIRT without manually resetting the trigger between shots).  I chose the Styrofoam plate in the center for this drill.  The timer was set to stop at three seconds (aka “par time”).  So, I had three seconds from start to finish, getting as many shots on the “threat” as possible.   The shots are in red (with the highlighted first shot in orange-yellow, at about 2 o’clock).

scoop-draw-from-concealed

I got the first shot (highlighted in blue in the times and yellow-orange on the target) off in 1.27 seconds. That was my best time that night. Most of the other first shot times were at about 1.5 – 1.75 seconds. You can see that the “split times” between shots ranged from 0.16 to 0.21 seconds. In total, I drew and got 10 shots off (all on target) within 3 seconds. This was from 4 yards away. Not a bad grouping, either!

I ran a similar drill (but just one shot per draw) with my “EDC” (every day carry) for more “real world” practice and performance assessment.  Since my “EDC” is a real firearm, I used the LaserLyte LT-Pre laser mounted in the muzzle.  Remember, safety first!  I quadruple-checked that the pistol was clear / safe and moved the magazines and ammo to another room.  Read the caption below for more details on how this drill was performed.

Wearing an untucked t-shirt. Using the "scoop draw." Random start. 1 shot for each repetition (six repetitions). Shots were taken at "3/4 hip" point shooting. Distance was 4 yards. The saved image obscured the first and second draws at 1.53 seconds and 1.42 seconds respectively. My best time was 1.18 seconds. Not bad, eh? Worst was 1.79 seconds.

Wearing an untucked t-shirt as a cover garment.  Glock 27 with a LaserLyte LT-Pre in a Crossbreed Supertuck IWB holster.  Using the “scoop draw.”  Random start signal.  One shot for each repetition (six repetitions).  Shots were taken at “3/4 hip” point shooting.  No sights!  Distance was 4 yards.  The saved image obscured the first and second draws at 1.53 seconds and 1.42 seconds respectively.  My best time was 1.18 seconds (see Shot #5).  Worst was 1.79 seconds.

But, that’s not all (it does)!  There’s More!

The L.A.S.R. app has a “magazine change” mode that can be set so that you “run out of ammo” at a certain point and have to “reload.”  The SIRT pistol has a removable magazine, and you can buy spares for practice / training.  The number of rounds available in your L.A.S.R. virtual magazine is adjustable, too.

The depth of options that add to the realism of your Dry Fire practice is impressive.

Another neat feature is the “Diagnostic Mode.”  Remember the “dots vs. dash” I mentioned before?  The L.A.S.R. Diagnostic Mode will trace the “tail” or “dash” that occurs from muzzle movement during the shot.  Example below:

Dots (or short tails) are good. Tails indicate problems with muzzle movement during the shot. I intentionally moved the muzzle during some of the shots for this demonstration.  I also made the shots and tails larger for this illustration (the size is customizable in the app).  The tails are blue, except for the last shot, which is orange (can also be customized).

L.A.S.R. Selfies!

The L.A.S.R. app also currently offers four optional plugins.  I won’t review all of them here.  But, one worth mentioning is the “Shooter Watch” plugin.  It allows the use of a 2nd camera that you can aim at yourself.  When you run your shooting drills, the app will automatically use the 2nd camera to record you.  The video recording of you is synced with the recording of the shots on target.  Cool as shit!

With this, feature, you can save and play back the drill for evaluation of things like footwork / movement, cover garment clearing, draw stroke, trigger control, and just about anything else you can think of.  It can also be used to create instructional videos.  Here’s a quickie video example I made:

Going infrared!

I’m updating this section, since I bought another SIRT pistol.  This model is equipped with an infrared shot-indicating laser.

The infrared SIRT pistol has a purple slide to distinguish it from the regular SIRT pistol.

The infrared SIRT pistol has a purple slide to distinguish it from the regular SIRT pistol.

The infrared SIRT pistol offers some advantages in terms of realistic training.  With a visible shot-indicating laser, the shooter will have a tendency to “chase the dot.”  What do I mean?  When I take the first shot, I’ll use the pistol’s sights.  But, I can’t help noticing where the laser dot “hits.”  If I miss the bulls-eye, there will be a nearly irresistible tendency to make corrections and see where the next “shot” lands by looking past the sights (and not using them).  In essence, the shooter will “walk the shots in” to the bulls-eye without using the sights for follow-up shots.  A visible laser will cause the shooter to switch from sight shooting to target-focused shooting.  That said, there is occasion to use target-f0cused shooting technique (aka “instinctive” or “point” shooting).

With the infrared SIRT pistol, I can’t do that.  I can’t see the “shot,” so I’m forced to continue using the sights for every shot I take.  No more cheating by “walking the laser dot in.”  Of course, the LASR software records the “shots” when using the available infrared camera.  This is a more realistic approach to training, whereas the shooter is using the sights for every shot.  (back to target section)

This is how we do it.

Another use I can see for these technologies is for instructing newbies.  I will definitely be using it to introduce friends and family to shooting BEFORE we go to the live range.  It will be an excellent tool to introduce and teach new shooters:

  • Safety!
  • Proper grip.
  • Sight alignment.
  • Sight picture.
  • Trigger control.

… all before going to the live range.  And, they can SEE the cause and effects of what they’re doing before incurring the sometimes intimidating factors of live ammo recoil, noise, and other people (watching) present at a real range.  With a laser-equipped gun and the LASR software, it will be a lot easier to instruct new shooters on how grip, sight alignment / picture, and trigger control affect their shots, without the distractions of a live range environment.

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Their websites also include some great videos.

Coolfire Trainer Recoil System

My honest opinion about the Coolfire Trainer recoil system:  Not ready for prime time!  It’s a really neat concept.  Their system includes a replacement barrel (that is the internal CO2 gas tank) for your real semi-auto pistol (Glock 23, in my case).  There is a laser that fits on the end of the barrel.  When you pull the trigger, the laser fires, and CO2 actuates the slide, simulating recoil and resetting the trigger.  So, you get to use your actual pistol with a laser, AND it cycles the slide and resets the trigger with CO2 gas.  Sounds great, right?  By all counts, it WOULD be the “holy grail” of Dry Fire gizmos.  If only.

I like the idea of simulating recoil and resetting the trigger on your real striker-fired gun for dry fire training.  I wish I could offer a positive review.  But, it just doesn’t live up to the claims.  And, I have to remain objective and truthful in my reviews.  Damn, it wasn’t cheap, either!  $400!  Sometimes you get “cut” on the “bleeding edge” of technology.

Charging the unit with CO2 was inconsistent.  I went through two tanks and two charging stations to get it working… sort of.  I think there is a problem with the “charging station” specs.  The first two “shots” were strong.  But, the power tapered off quickly with the second half of the shots cycling the the slide slowly.  The slide action also actuated the laser, causing “double hits.”  Basically, it simply doesn’t work as advertised.  If you search the web, you’ll find many stories of units breaking very quickly or simply not working.  Customer service is also reportedly spotty.

If things change, I’ll update this article.  I would love to hear from them, as I gave up trying to get some answers.  For now… DO NOT BUY the Coolfire Trainer.

UPDATE:  CoolFire has changed management / ownership and contacted me to resolve the issues.  To be fair, I have not had time to follow-up (and I’ve been on a precision rifle kick that has distracted me from pistol shooting).

In my opinion, the SIRT pistol is still the best thing going when it comes to a realistic training pistol with a resetting trigger.

Been there.  Shot that.

As you can see, I’ve purchased just about every dry fire practice gizmo… some of them not cheap for what they are.  I do not want to add it all up!  I’d bet I could have bought a couple of real guns for what I’ve spent!  Some of the gizmos are good (Laserlyte).  Some are great (SIRT and LASR).  The most expensive gizmo was a dud (Coolfire Trainer), so far.

I will use the LaserLyte LT-Pre when I want to dry fire a particular firearm.  For example… when I want to train with my “EDC,” which is a smart idea, I will be using the LaserLyte LT-Pre.  But, the SIRT pistol + L.A.S.R. combination is very different… in a good way.  I will be using them a lot.  I think they are the coolest things since “slicing the pie.”  (Gun pun for the ballistic cognoscenti!)  I can’t recommend them highly enough!

I hope you enjoyed my Dry Fire Laser Training Systems Review.  Are you regularly using Dry Fire as part of your training?  Chime in below!

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49 Responses to Dry Fire Laser Training Systems Review

  1. Susan Vadnais says:

    Sounds like something law enforcement officers may get into. Many of them may not be too concerned about the “sensory thrill” that dry fire lacks.

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Who said anything about a “thrill?” :-/

      Most police officers get VERY little firearms practice / training. For many, it’s a single box of ammo for annual “qualifications,” and that’s it.

  2. Susan Vadnais says:

    Excuse me. Lack of sensory “reward” as per your article. You highlighted this as one of the negatives … it can become boring. I don’t think Law Enforcement Officers would care about becoming bored with dry fire as it may help them in keeping up their training. Check out Dryfire.com It looks like this is being marketed to Law Enforcement too… not just gun ethusiasts.

    • Susan Vadnais says:

      Excuse me again…. actually the link is http://www.dryfirepractice.com

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      By “sensory reward,” I am referring to feedback (as is explained in the following paragraph and in the rest of the article). This isn’t about a “thrill,” which is an emotional state. When analyzing or judging our performance as shooters, the feedback involves multiple senses, the first of which is visual. With live ammo, we see a reaction in the target… a hole… movement… destruction. That’s how we know if we hit the target at which we were aiming. There is auditory feedback, both in the shot fired and the sound of the target being hit (especially true with steel targets). “Bang! Ding!” versus “Bang! (nothing).”

      There is tactile feedback in recoil. There is tactile and visual feedback regarding our control of the firearm. Are the sights back on target? Or way off, due to a lack of control? I could go on and on. Experienced shooters know exactly what I’m talking about.

      Unenhanced Dry Fire gives NONE of that feedback (sensory reward) to a shooter. Nothing visual. Nothing audible. Nothing tactile. These Dry Fire gizmos and technology help put some of that back, making it not only more enjoyable, relatable, and transferable, but PRODUCTIVE, as well.

      Most LEOs are not interested in firearms at all, but rather see it as a requirement for the job. Very, very few are “enthusiasts.” Few practice on their own time or dime. Many departments, if they’re LUCKY, hand out ONE box of ammo (50 rounds) to each officer PER MONTH. That’s it. Budgets are tight. And, while it may be counterintuitive to those that are unfamiliar with the realities of LE firearms training… Not all LEOs are good marksmen. Some are. Some aren’t. There are available stats that prove that out… somewhere on my hard drive. But, that’s not the point of this article.

      The typical LE annual qualifications requirements are very easy. I have a pdf somewhere that illustrates the qualification drills. Very, very easy and forgiving. And, that’s OK. The point is that the assumption that all LEOs are super marksmen and super-knowledgeable about firearms is simply not true.

      I’m familiar with nearly all the Dry Fire gizmos and companies out there. 🙂 My bet is that very few LE departments would use these products, just as they do little live fire training.

  3. Susan Vadnais says:

    Thanks Mike. Good to know. Not being a skilled firearm expert or hobbyist, I would be more inclined to call it sensory feedback rather than sensory reward. But I can relate to the “rewards” that people get from the hobbies/interests they enjoy. I sense that you thoroughly enjoy firearms training and writing about it.

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      The reward is knowing that your skills are improving and that your efforts are effective. The way that happens with shooting (and most sports, for that matter) are via the senses.

  4. Susan Vadnais says:

    Thanks. That’s a good explanation and one that makes sense to me.

  5. Joe Hair says:

    Thank you, Mike.
    This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for, and I didn’t even know it!

    I can see this as an excellent tool for pre-range practice. I almost have my wife convinced that we need to go to the range together. I can see this as something we can do together at home to be better prepared.

    Again,thank you for doing all of the legwork.

    Joe

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      You betcha, Joe! I think this is an excellent way to introduce a new shooter to the mechanics of shooting. Proper grip. Sight alignment. Sight picture. Trigger control. All that stuff… BEFORE going to the noisy range.

      I’ve been using this LASR software for a few weeks now, and I love it.

      Good luck!

  6. LJ Wilson says:

    Great writeup and great software. I wish I had known about this system before spending $300 on a LaserLyte setup. This is much more flexible and gives so much more valuable information about my shooting mechanics and performance. The Laserlyte system will help with making improvements to accuracy, this helps with that and so much more. I plan on also including semi-live fire practice using Airsoft like this guy:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHArGTfPf-k

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Thanks. I might say that I wish I had known about it, too, before spending all that money on the LaserLyte stuff. But, I’m finding the LaserLyte gear has its place. I’m using both. And, it put me in a position to write a broad article that compared and contrasted the different systems. 🙂

      I have not yet tried the Airsoft gear. I’ll check out that video. Thanks again for your comment!

  7. SeattleSeaGuy says:

    Wow, thank you for the in-depth article on dry-firing! LASR is incredible! I had no idea that there was this kind of technology out there. I’ve found dry-firing to be really helpful in eliminating my flinch that shows up on occasion. Now my next project is to convince my dentist out here in Seattle http://www.docpavdental.com/ to come down to the range with me!

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Thanks, SeattleSeaGuy! I’m loving the LASR app. I can’t imagine any shooter not liking it. We all get that flinch after long shooting sessions, especially with bigger calibers. Thanks for chiming in!

  8. SeattleSeaGuy says:

    Really loving this site and am working through the archives. Really great stuff in here, keep up the good work!

  9. For the most realistic training…visit coolfiretrainer.com. CoolFire is a revolutionary drop-in recoil laser training system that utilizes CO2 and an integrated laser to turn YOUR gun into an effective and economical firearms training tool.

    CoolFire works with most electronic targets and many of the computer simulators.

  10. Justin says:

    Great article. As you mentioned in your article, ammunition costs can make it hard to train as often as you may like. So, naturally I turned to dry fire. I purchased the laserlyte target, real trigger trainer pistol, some small precision laser targets, etc. I, like you mentioned, found myself getting bored with the motions without the realism. So I found some new ways to spice it up. Firstly, I intend to purchase the LASR program….how kick ass is that?!? Secondly, I wanted to share my newest dry fire discovery that you may even like more than the SIRT training pistol. Here are the two links, I’ll let you figure it out…it won’t take much. If you’re anything like me this will get you excited.
    store.laser-ammo.com/airsoft/airsoft-laser-conversion-for-kwa-atp-pistols.html
    http://www.evike.com/products/35937/

  11. MTShooter says:

    Nice review, but I think you should make the point that the L.A.S.R. system does NOT run natively on a Macintosh computer. Some people tend to forget that Windows computers are not the only ones that exist. Mac has a significant following. The L.A.S.R. will run on a Mac, but not without additional software (which = additional cost).

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      I’m not a Mac fan at all. I’ve never owned a Mac, never will.

      I wasn’t aware that it wasn’t Mac-compatible. So, you just made the point for me / us. 🙂

      I think LASR is awesome enough to justify getting whatever bridge you need to run it on a Mac, though.

      I’m not a computer magazine writer that is trying to appeal to all readers. And, I don’t have the resources to test programs on every platform. I’m just a one-man show here writing about my thoughts and experiences.

      Maybe Apple will create their own laser dry fire software? 😉

  12. John Cochran says:

    Most extensive article I’ve seen on laser training systems. I’m interested in a recoil system like CoolFire to assist in my dry fire training for USPSA and other events. Are there any other laser recoil systems out there that cycle your pistol? Coolfire is great but their model selection is pretty limited. I submitted my pistol to them a few years ago(XDM 9), but haven’t seen or heard anything yet.

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Thanks! So far, I’m not impressed with my Coolfire. I don’t get many “shots” from a charge. And, the last shots are rather weak, barely cycling the slide. It’s a neat concept. I just don’t know if it’s “there,” yet… or there’s a problem with my unit. I sent them an email a long time ago, asking for help. Never heard back. I’ve been too busy with life to follow up. But, I will, eventually.

  13. Dave B says:

    Great article. I can tell you are a big fan of the LASR computer program but for those readers on a budget they might want to look at freeware programs to start. One program is “Sharp Spotter” which only requires a computer and webcam and is very simple to set up and use. The other is “Shootoff” which offers more options and has many video tutorials on YouTube. By trying one of these your readers might be able to get into a little better laser and find out if it’s right for them. Thanks

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Thanks for your comment, Dave. I was aware that there are some free apps out there. But, I don’t have time to review every app. There are also some paid apps that compete with LASR. When I compared them by researching them online, LASR came out on top for me. So, that’s the one I bought. Folks can do their own homework, of course. And, my article was too long already! 😉

      As for affordability, I would calculate the initial cost of a minimal laser system (laser, computer app, camera) as a function of live ammo costs and range time. So, $120 laser + $120 app + $40 web cam = $280.

      So, if I compare that to a typical range session for me… 300 rounds of 9-mm (for this example) + range time costs = $87 ($72 for ammo, $15 for range time).

      The cost of the laser system ($280) divided by $87 (ammo & range time) = 3.2 range sessions. So, the cost of the laser system is equivalent to approximately 3 – 4 range sessions with live ammo.

      Your mileage may vary. 😉

      Effectively the dry fire laser system pays for itself rather quickly. And, then beyond that, it’s all gravy… “free” practice!

      You can do your own math, of course.

      • ura says:

        The cost of the laser system can be reduced, if instead of a computer use a smartphone and a special application for it. Then you get:
        $ 120 laser + $ 10 software +5$ carholder for smartphone (optional)

        App called “Laser Range” in Google Play Market

        • The Dental Warrior says:

          Sure… the cost is reduced. But, you are NOT getting the same thing. The LASR app (which requires a computer) is FAR more feature-rich than any of the phone apps. There’s simply no comparison. But, yes… there are phone apps that record laser shots.

  14. Tony Varone says:

    Thank you for the great review. Your informative evaluation is valuable information for an individual interested in getting into dryfire practice. (which I believe should be a part of all shooters practice regime) I just recently purchased and set up the “Smokeless Range” by Laser Ammo Training Technologies. After spending a considerable amount of money on LaserLyte, SIRT, Airsoft and other dryfire products over the years I was always looking for something more and more realistic. Airsoft gas operated blowback weapons have been the most realistic for me but the plastic bb’s throughout my house and basement, dents in the sheetrock from target trap misses, etc. I knew I had to look for something better. The Smokeless Range has met my expectations so far. I bought the IR system to eliminate bad habits from chasing laser dots as you said. I also bought the KWA blowback G17 Glock Clone with the IR unit pre-installed. I have to commend Laser Ammo on their technical support during my initial software set up via Team Viewer while staying on the phone with me throughout the entire process. In addition, further questions via email were answered promptly and informatively. I cannot say enough goods things about their EXCELLENT support! The system is pricey, but as you stated, after loading up for the range, getting there, ammo cost, following range rules, cleaning your firearms, etc., you are looking at a formidable investment each time you go. And by the way, I have a range at my house and STILL practice dryfire extensively! I apologize for the lengthy post! Keep up the great site! Regards, Tony

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Thanks for visiting my blog and for your comment, Tony. I’m not familiar with the “Smokeless Range.” How did I miss that one? Haha! I’ll check it out. Editing to add: I had seen it. I just didn’t recognize the name initially. It involves using a video projector and screen. Never minding the considerable additional expense, it may present some logistical issues for some, as it pertains to having the space to set that up. But, it does look pretty cool. I’d need a dedicated “man cave” to set that up.

      I have stayed away from the Airsoft guns, as I do not want to deal with pellets littering my house. I’m pretty sure my wife wouldn’t like it, either! 🙂

      Thanks for sharing your experience!

  15. PT says:

    Great review. I purchased a SIRT, a .380 red cartridge for my Bodyguard S&W, and the LASR app based on your review. Up next is upgrading to IR and getting the shotgun and AR15 up and going.

    This is great practice for me, since I can’t make it to the live range all that much. Great practice for IDPA/USPSA and for concealed carry.

    I run the LASR on windows on my mac using bootcamp. Its a mild annoyance to boot up windows every time I want to practice, but the alternative programs don’t come close to the LASR software.

    I’d encourage most shooters to buy a SIRT and the LASR. For the price of a case of .223 you can get unlimited practice with a pistol, shotgun, or AR15 in your home.

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Sounds like you’ve got a nice system set up for effective (and frequent) dry fire practice! Thanks for the compliments. It’s great hearing that my article is helping!

  16. John W. Browning says:

    Since this was written I have to assume that the Cool Fire has been perfected. I just watched a live FB session with Michael Seeklander using this system that functioned perfectly and was highly recommended by him. So, It may have come to pass that this IS the holy grail and worth 400 bucks if it works.
    I’m going to give it a whirld on my 1911. I’m upset that so little is made for the XD. I wished a Glock and my hand could be friends.

  17. Saint Ramon says:

    I understand this article was published a few years ago. Well, web cams and PCs are so out of date by now – think your smart phone instead! Many people use their smart phones more than their PCs on a daily basis right now. In fact, most of the newer smart phones (- post 2015/2016) are so powerful (and, by the way, come with a built-in high quality camera) that they may outrun a Windows laptop made just 3 years ago. There is quite a few FREE mobile Dry Fire Apps in the Apple App Store and the Google App Store, as of June 2017. It would be interesting to see how they compare the $100 software listed here. I’d like to suggest an update to keep this article valid.

    Also, as a military-trained gun owner, I would argue that the term ‘sensory reward’ is a very dangerous term to use/promote. Serious gun owners do not get any ‘reward’ from watching the target got shot off or torn up, at least not for me and my buddies. It is probably more beneficial to everyone that we all promote a more serious attitude for gun ownership and the shooting skills. As far as I know, other than hunting and competition, there is only a few very rare cases that the shooting skills can be applied in a ‘rewarding’ sense in the modern days.

    Thanks!

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Thanks for your comments, Ramon.

      I’m not a fan of using a smart phone for anything except, in a pinch, as a substitute for a real laptop or real camera. The experience is not even close or comparable, IMO. I’ve glanced at the phone apps, and well… you generally get what you pay for. The LASR app is a robust program with features that will satisfy serious shooters, defensive trainers, and competitors. LASR’s features and display would not fit on a phone screen, either.

      Considering that I am not a professional firearms reviewer or blogger, I don’t feel any obligation to cover every single product on the market. Everything I’ve reviewed, I bought with my own money. Nobody is sending me freebies to test and review. 🙂 I have a life, a family, and a business to run. So, I write about my own limited experience. There are plenty of pros out there reviewing all kinds of goodies sent to them for that purpose.

      I’m also former military and enjoy pedantry as much as the next guy. But, let’s not split hairs on semantics. Substitute “sensory feedback,” if it assuages your sensibilities. Consider the CONTEXT of the term. We’re shooting paper and steel targets, not the “enemy” here. At ease, soldier. 🙂

      I’m as serious as they come pertaining firearms and their safe usage. I was even on national TV! 😉

  18. David Boven says:

    I’m still following your emails after all these years 3? Dry firing may be advantageous but “Mr Ed” reruns are still more interesting. Tech could be around the corner. Keep drilling down and filling us shooters in.

  19. Bruno Ramasco says:

    Hey, thank you very much for the article it is still very helpful!
    Have you ever heard about or used the MantisX system or the iTarget? What do you think about them?
    Thanks again!
    Cheers

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      I’ve heard of them. I’ve perused their websites. But, I do not have any experience with them.

      I really like the LASR system. It is feature-rich, but you don’t have to be rich to buy it. 🙂 Also, the guys at LASR are constantly updating / improving LASR and are very responsive to customer input.

  20. Tony says:

    How is this LASR compared to ShootOff software? I tried shoot off and was not impressed the Lighting was a pain to get just right. Still was not reliable as shots were missed or not responding. Also shots had a silly delay like 2 seconds LOL.
    LASR Videos looks like it would work in all light conditions ? I do not have a windows PC. I have a large iMac desk top NG for portability. Thinking of the LASR Station to move around my house but want to make sure before i spend 450 ?

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      I am not familiar with ShootOff.

      I will say that LASR will not work in “all light conditions.” It can have issues with bright lighting or lighting that changes… For example… a big screen TV turned on in the room with the flickering light it can produce. I find that dimmer background / ambient lighting works best. It doesn’t have to be dark. But very bright can cause issues. The cool thing is LASR has a “calibration” button that you push once you’re set up. If there are problems with the lighting, the program will point it out for you.

  21. Tony says:

    Thanks for getting back so soon ! Have florescent lighting in my basement might be a problem with flickering? Without lights working will be to dark to see sights & targets at night.

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Honestly, I don’t know if fluorescent lights are an issue. I would doubt it, though. But, a big-screen TV screen can change brightness (and projected) light quite a bit. I have seen that affect LASR. A lot of the marketing / promotional videos made by the guys at LASR are in their offices, which presumably have fluorescent lighting, as most office buildings do. So, I would think you’re good to go.

  22. Tony says:

    Thanks For your opinion it helped a lot. I also called LASR the said i was good as long lights aren’t flickering! Now on a hunt for a refurbished laptop with windows 10 .
    Thanks Again for your Great Writeup .

  23. Paul Cartwright says:

    Thanks for the article. Any updates on CoolFire and how well (or not so well) it works? Have you tried an airsoft with a laserlyte or something similar for the felt recoil? That was an option I was considering as I too have concerns about CoolFire.

    Paul

  24. Vince says:

    What are your thoughts on laser-ammo? Have you heard of this product?
    Is it worth the bang for the buck?

    • The Dental Warrior says:

      Looks like they offer several products, so I’m not sure which one you’re referring to. 🙂

      But, it would appear most of their stuff is another version of a lot of the products out there. Similar to Laserlyte’s stuff, for example. I have not used any of Laser-Ammo’s products.

      I think they all work quite well to one degree or another. So, it can come down to personal preference with the details of each system.

  25. Jack McClure says:

    8/15/2019
    Any top end updates since article 2015?
    Before I spend moneyyyy.

  26. Jon says:

    Great article!

    Another really cool target system is the Laser Strike System, which does not use any batteries and does not need an app or a computer to use. I like it a lot.

    https://laserstrikesystems.com/

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