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  1. Alan Mead
    August 27, 2012

    Wow! Very nice post! The trigeminal neuralgia case was a huge catch. I’m not sure I would have caught that. You da man!

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    • The Dental Warrior
      August 27, 2012

      You started it, Alan! 😉

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  2. Rob
    August 28, 2012

    There’s a good article in Dentistry Today that discusses nonodontogenic etiologies. These can cause a lot of frustration for both the patient and the dentist.

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    • The Dental Warrior
      September 6, 2012

      Hi Rob. Thanks for your comments. I think the key is to consider the patient attached to the teeth. Ask questions and listen.

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  3. Yesle @ D is for Dentist
    October 4, 2012

    I love this! As an overwhelmed D1, sometimes I wonder why we’re learning all about different diseases and conditions past the mouth. This is why. Glad you actually talked to the patient and were able to identify what the problem was.

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    • The Dental Warrior
      October 4, 2012

      Thanks, Yesle. Lots of systemic conditions can manifest signs intraorally. Just remember there’s a whole body connected to those teeth. 🙂

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  4. Kendall @ Toothache Relief Help
    December 11, 2013

    I seriously hope more dentists can think outside their “dental box”…

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  5. Praveen Singh
    April 8, 2014

    This is undoubtedly one of the best articles as far as I am concerned. Not very often do you get to read something like this. It is indeed very true that not all dental problems can actually be the problem of the tooth. Dentists must therefore never jump the gun while treating dental problems. Many a times we come across patients writing on blogs that even after root canal their pain has never subsided. Maybe these patient could have been saved from all these pain and suffering if the initial diagnosis was precise. Some dentists have a reputation of that of a money grabber. Maybe its time everyone took a very holistic approach in treating patients.

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  6. mohit mathur
    August 19, 2015

    there are many reasons for a toothache.

    pain from surrounding neighbouring structures, mi,senstivity.patient will term senstivity as pain also.

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  7. Greg @ Emergency Dentist London
    December 2, 2015

    Excellent article! Reminding ourselves to think outside of the box is a must. And it is true not only for dentists or doctors in many field but actually for everyone.

    Thank you,
    Greg
    Emergency Dentist London

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  8. Health Sciences
    May 31, 2016

    “the best dentistry is no dentistry.” … LOVE THIS! It’s true though, it’s very natural to want to figure out what the problem is and it’s absolutely frustrating when you feel “stumped” by what the patient is telling you. I agree 100% though with your conclusion that forcing the issue and performing procedures that may very well be unnecessary could end up doing more harm than good.

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  9. Theresa
    November 6, 2016

    It’s nice to read your article, very informative especially on the TN case. Most dentists never could identify such a case.

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  10. Lisa
    March 29, 2017

    My dad had jaw pain and went to the dentist. The dentist said nothing was wrong. The next day he died of a heart attack while driving home from work.

    Thank you for the article.

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    • Sarah
      December 4, 2017

      This is awful, so sorry for your terrible loss. And well done for spreading the word. I had no idea this could be a sign of heart issues X

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  11. Kelly gorman
    July 16, 2017

    As a trigeminal neuralgia patient, I thank you for this article!! So many of us spend years doing unnecessary procedures to try to alleviate the horrific pain. Your article helps!

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    • The Dental Warrior
      July 17, 2017

      Thanks! I hope you were able to get some resolution with your TN.

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  12. France
    July 17, 2017

    Super post!!!! As a dentist’s wife, an osteopath ( therefore considering occlusion in my diagnosis) but also a patient suffering from trigeminal neuropathy after a dental implant surgery on the jaw ( referred to a dentist friend of my husband) I was complaining from excruciating pain on half of my face, wasn’t listen to….had all my root canaled teeth removed ( on the maxillary area) .before discovering my jaw had been broken during the implant surgery…too late…suffering from iatrogenic Trigeminal neuropathy…no possible surgery, under heavy anti epileptic and other neuroleptic medications, still in excruciating pain and exhausted by too much pain…listen to a patient could have avoid this ( an immediate surgery and pharmacological protocol exist…emergency) . Thank you for your amazing post….indeed the history of the disease is crucial….

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    • The Dental Warrior
      July 17, 2017

      Thanks for the nice compliments. Indeed, it’s amazing what information can be discovered with a good history / conversation.

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  13. Angela
    July 17, 2017

    As a TN sufferer, I am so thankful that my dentist knew immediately mine was not a dental issue and referred me to a specialist. I am horrified when I read stories about how other warriors have had teeth pulled and root canals on perfectly healthy teeth. This is such a horrible disease yet very few health professionals know how to diagnose or treat it.

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    • The Dental Warrior
      July 17, 2017

      Unfortunately, the adage is sometimes true: “If the only tool you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.”

      I hope you were able to alleviate your TN symptoms.

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  14. Toni seddo
    January 9, 2018

    After 9 months of annoying pain in my temple,tooth,cheek and behind eye I went to a internist .. took down all the info and said to see my dentist .. did full panoramic view and see nothing wrong under a bridge that has two root canal already.. then go to ER and they do Ct scan on all sinus.. they see minimal mucus give me 10 days of antibiotic.. still have the pain.. was sent to ent they say all look fine.. I’m noticing while I was sleeping my face started hurting and woke me up from the ac… after this I see an eye dr who said eyes are fine.. last resort the neurologist.. had brain MRI .. everything came out fine.. just can’t pinpoint this issue.. but like I said it’s more of an annoying pain that takes your mind off things you have to do each day ..

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    • KF
      March 15, 2018

      Other causes of tooth/jaw pain can be food sensitivities (especially nightshades) or B12 deficiencies.

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      • Holly Haber
        September 7, 2019

        Maybe B12 overdose in my case!? Vegan so 5 weeks ago I decided to mega dose 4,000 a day vs 1,000 B12 bc my blood work showed on the low end of NORMAL! Dumb. Husband was doing also and rash and swelling occurred after slowly over 1 month. I had all over tooth pain and flushing in face like a niacin reaction. Dentist looked, said teeth were fine. Said maybe allergic reaction. General Doctor gave me Claritin to calm allergic reaction. 9 days later still feel allergic reaction AND more extreme teeth pain radiating all over mouth.

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    • Eric C
      August 17, 2018

      Sounds like you have a type of headache called TAC – Trigeminal Autonomic Cephalgia. Of which Cluster Headache is a subtype.
      Depending on whether it’s chronic or not, treatment differs. See an orofacial pain specialist for it (preferably a board-certified one)

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  15. Binny Vashist
    November 30, 2018

    Indian celebrity bollywood actor was diagnosed with Trigeminal Neuralgia later on when his dentist referred him to neurologist for his underlying tooth pain. Toothache is a common symptom of many oral and systemic diseasdes. Correct Case history is a mandate to pick the early detection of the underlying etiology of toothache.

    This was a wonderful article. You reminded us where dentists tend to unintentionally ignore some findings like CTS.

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  16. THAPER DENTAL CLINIC JAIPUR
    December 15, 2018

    We had a patient who intially came with a badly done incomplete RCT. After repeat RCT also he, kept complaining about pain. We saw nothing in the CBCT. Asked him to go for neurologist consultation, but he was so adamant that the pain needs to be treated by dentist only. After couple of painful months he finally agreed to it and got his “Neuralgia Diagnosed. The awareness among patient is very less and googling has made it impossible for the doctor to tell the patient what is the right course of treatment.

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  17. Becky
    January 2, 2019

    Being a trigeminal neuralgia suffer myself iv had 1top back molar out and 2 bottom ones i am left with 1 lone tooth by itself on my bottom right the pain i have in it is excruciating my dentist cannot see a problem with this tooth but i want it ripped out im due to see my consultant soon as i believe its a tooth problem i went to see an emergency dentist over the xmas period who said the tooth looked ok on xray but was willing to take it out anyway i waited until today to see my regular dentist and he said the tooth was fine!! I also had dry socket on my upper to molar and still feeling pain after 3 weeks could this be referred pain to my bottom tooth?despertley seeking help

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  18. Nigel Farage
    July 31, 2019

    Thank you for putting this together, and for doing it just brilliantly.

    I thought I was the only one who thought that dentists jump really quick to make conclusions and some of them are too negligent to even look into the root cause of things.

    Sometimes the underlying cause is a little different from what you think it may be and that is exactly why a complete check and treatment is important.

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  19. Janet
    January 14, 2020

    For months I have had tooth thropping& pain, dentist took X-rays & says nothing is wrong, the pain is getting more intense, what can I do???

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    • The Dental Warrior
      January 15, 2020

      Hi Janet. This blog’s audience is dentists and not intended to be a consumer / patient resource. So, I can’t give any specific advice, since I haven’t seen you as a patient. My general advice would be to find a dentist who can make a diagnosis.

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  20. dentist in greater noida
    October 15, 2020

    toothache are sometimes uncanny and idiopathic. Just be a patient patient of your dentist in such times.

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